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		<title>By: coolbuck</title>
		<link>http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2005/12/16/creative-destruction/comment-page-1/#comment-93938</link>
		<dc:creator>coolbuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 04:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;coolbuck...&lt;/strong&gt;

bewail:preach immaturity:concatenate commodore forsaking ...</description>
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<p>bewail:preach immaturity:concatenate commodore forsaking &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DE</title>
		<link>http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2005/12/16/creative-destruction/comment-page-1/#comment-130</link>
		<dc:creator>DE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 17:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you brought the Hayek article to light. Very informative. Brillo pad at his bombastic best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you brought the Hayek article to light. Very informative. Brillo pad at his bombastic best.</p>
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		<title>By: Salome Maloney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salome Maloney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 14:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I'll try and clarify why I felt compelled to post the original message. "But if your culture is weak, it will need to change in order to survive" jumped out at me on a day when I had been reading a lot in the news about the first civil partnership ceremonies in the UK. It made me think about the enormous suffering people have endured and the courage people have shown to get to where we are today. We have not got to where we are today (and by we I mean the LGBT "community" / queer "culture" if you will) by changing our aims or settling for anything less than equality. It's a question of semantics and not, I think a particularly interesting point so I'll get back to work now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I&#8217;ll try and clarify why I felt compelled to post the original message. &#8220;But if your culture is weak, it will need to change in order to survive&#8221; jumped out at me on a day when I had been reading a lot in the news about the first civil partnership ceremonies in the UK. It made me think about the enormous suffering people have endured and the courage people have shown to get to where we are today. We have not got to where we are today (and by we I mean the LGBT &#8220;community&#8221; / queer &#8220;culture&#8221; if you will) by changing our aims or settling for anything less than equality. It&#8217;s a question of semantics and not, I think a particularly interesting point so I&#8217;ll get back to work now.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 20:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Certainly not!  Exploring that concept is most of the point of the blog!  It is why there term multiculuralism is so hard to pin down - your concept of what culture is will determine your concept of multiculturalism.  As a result, this post has a certain amount of tongue-in-cheek about it (I hope that is clear).  In this sense I'm using a rather restrictive definition based around religion, which tends to exclude based on something other than religious faith.

I don't see why it shouldn't extend to other types of culture though.  Its precisely because 'culture' is such a multi-faceted thing that I think 'multiculturalism' describes the modern world so well.  If multiculturalism was simply two religious traditions living side-by-side, it would probably be less interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly not!  Exploring that concept is most of the point of the blog!  It is why there term multiculuralism is so hard to pin down - your concept of what culture is will determine your concept of multiculturalism.  As a result, this post has a certain amount of tongue-in-cheek about it (I hope that is clear).  In this sense I&#8217;m using a rather restrictive definition based around religion, which tends to exclude based on something other than religious faith.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see why it shouldn&#8217;t extend to other types of culture though.  Its precisely because &#8216;culture&#8217; is such a multi-faceted thing that I think &#8216;multiculturalism&#8217; describes the modern world so well.  If multiculturalism was simply two religious traditions living side-by-side, it would probably be less interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Salome Maloney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salome Maloney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 18:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies for not being clear - I don't think the concept of "evolutionary rationalism" is harming to the LGBT community. I was just asking you to clarify what you mean by the term "culture". Perhaps you could explain?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies for not being clear - I don&#8217;t think the concept of &#8220;evolutionary rationalism&#8221; is harming to the LGBT community. I was just asking you to clarify what you mean by the term &#8220;culture&#8221;. Perhaps you could explain?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 14:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we're using phrases like "evolutionary rationalism" as Hayek does, then a crude form of Darwinism may be on the cards, but I think there are subtle differences.  First, human cultures should not be considered separate species in competition with each other.  Rather, they could be like the different races and tribes, who can interbreed for evolutionary advantage!

I am surprised you think that this take on cultural evolution harms the LBGT community.  Why can't activism be a part of this evolution?  If we are today seeing &lt;a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4540226.stm" title="BBC News &#124; Gay Weddings in Belfast" rel="nofollow"&gt;gay weddings&lt;/a&gt;, then the heterosexist hegemony you describe is clearly not strong enough to supress it.  The activists have drawn attention to their rights, but the culture succeeds because it is a way of life that many people genuinely want to choose.

To round off the analogy, perhaps the culture you describe can be likened to the &lt;a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4501152.stm" title="BBC News" rel="nofollow"&gt;new mammal found in the Borneo jungle&lt;/a&gt;: its always been there, but only now can it come out into the open - and the world is a richer place for it.  I am also reminded of the story of one of &lt;a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4442020.stm"&gt;Darwin's Galapagos tortoise&lt;/a&gt; who lived as a 'He' for about a hundred years, before it was revealed she had been a 'She' all along...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we&#8217;re using phrases like &#8220;evolutionary rationalism&#8221; as Hayek does, then a crude form of Darwinism may be on the cards, but I think there are subtle differences.  First, human cultures should not be considered separate species in competition with each other.  Rather, they could be like the different races and tribes, who can interbreed for evolutionary advantage!</p>
<p>I am surprised you think that this take on cultural evolution harms the LBGT community.  Why can&#8217;t activism be a part of this evolution?  If we are today seeing <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4540226.stm" title="BBC News | Gay Weddings in Belfast" rel="nofollow">gay weddings</a>, then the heterosexist hegemony you describe is clearly not strong enough to supress it.  The activists have drawn attention to their rights, but the culture succeeds because it is a way of life that many people genuinely want to choose.</p>
<p>To round off the analogy, perhaps the culture you describe can be likened to the <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4501152.stm" title="BBC News" rel="nofollow">new mammal found in the Borneo jungle</a>: its always been there, but only now can it come out into the open - and the world is a richer place for it.  I am also reminded of the story of one of <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4442020.stm">Darwin&#8217;s Galapagos tortoise</a> who lived as a &#8216;He&#8217; for about a hundred years, before it was revealed she had been a &#8216;She&#8217; all along&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Salome Maloney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salome Maloney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 13:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Rob,

I know where you are coming from on this. However, I think you need to clarify yourself a little in paragraph 7. It can read like a horrible crude darwinism that supports the subjugation of the disenfranchised or cultures that have been weakened by being written out of history.  "Protectionism will not work" - protection of the status quo? Absolutely. "If your culture is weak, it will need to change in order to survive" - or perhaps it will need to keep battering down the door erected by a heterosexist hegemony that has deliberately and consistently denied basic civil liberties to the 'lgbt community'. We would not see the images we see in todays news were it not for activists from cultures weakened by institutionailsed prejudice refusing to compromise and accept anything less than equality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Rob,</p>
<p>I know where you are coming from on this. However, I think you need to clarify yourself a little in paragraph 7. It can read like a horrible crude darwinism that supports the subjugation of the disenfranchised or cultures that have been weakened by being written out of history.  &#8220;Protectionism will not work&#8221; - protection of the status quo? Absolutely. &#8220;If your culture is weak, it will need to change in order to survive&#8221; - or perhaps it will need to keep battering down the door erected by a heterosexist hegemony that has deliberately and consistently denied basic civil liberties to the &#8216;lgbt community&#8217;. We would not see the images we see in todays news were it not for activists from cultures weakened by institutionailsed prejudice refusing to compromise and accept anything less than equality.</p>
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