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	<title>Comments on: Free Alaa - Egyptian blogger detained</title>
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		<title>By: Lidiya Dawnay</title>
		<link>http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2006/05/14/free-alaa-egyptian-blogger-detained/#comment-95436</link>
		<dc:creator>Lidiya Dawnay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Clarice</title>
		<link>http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2006/05/14/free-alaa-egyptian-blogger-detained/#comment-2635</link>
		<dc:creator>Clarice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 00:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I'm sure it's all fine and good, it just seems a bit premature to me that's all, for something that would no doubt be just as innovative if left to evolve in an organic kind of a way without being self-consciously scrutinised as we go.  There are lots of things people thought would change the world, and got all excited about that just got over-hyped and flopped, and all the people who raved about it were left looking rather silly and self-aggrandising.  

For some things I do sincerely believe we *need* the perspective of hindsight to truly appreciate their impact/value, and I for one do value the insights that will be provided by the long view, even though I'm not bold enough to really imagine very clearly what they might be.  Maybe people in the future will think it very twee to see all the excitement and backslapping taking up time that could have been spent using the technology to mind-bending world-changing effect, saving lives, changing minds, doing real good.  The nature of such things mean that they will leave an indelible trail anyway, so there isn't really such a great need to document how great it all is.  Psychological impacts nothwithstanding.  I think there should be more chronicling in that department, but I lack the brain-power...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s all fine and good, it just seems a bit premature to me that&#8217;s all, for something that would no doubt be just as innovative if left to evolve in an organic kind of a way without being self-consciously scrutinised as we go.  There are lots of things people thought would change the world, and got all excited about that just got over-hyped and flopped, and all the people who raved about it were left looking rather silly and self-aggrandising.  </p>
<p>For some things I do sincerely believe we *need* the perspective of hindsight to truly appreciate their impact/value, and I for one do value the insights that will be provided by the long view, even though I&#8217;m not bold enough to really imagine very clearly what they might be.  Maybe people in the future will think it very twee to see all the excitement and backslapping taking up time that could have been spent using the technology to mind-bending world-changing effect, saving lives, changing minds, doing real good.  The nature of such things mean that they will leave an indelible trail anyway, so there isn&#8217;t really such a great need to document how great it all is.  Psychological impacts nothwithstanding.  I think there should be more chronicling in that department, but I lack the brain-power&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2006/05/14/free-alaa-egyptian-blogger-detained/#comment-2618</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 12:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I guess we do make a fuss about the printing press and the impact it had on the dissemination of Luther’s 95 Theses&lt;/em&gt;

I think that's where a lot of this 'meta-blogging' (i.e. blogging about blogging) comes from.  I think people sense the emergence of a new innovation that will chnage society, and we naturally want to chronicle that change and how it happens.  I've often likened the Communications Revolution to the Industrial Revolution, suggesting that the use of technologies will affect a societal change.  

More links and comments in the grandly titled &lt;a href="http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/category/internet/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Internet Philosophy&lt;/a&gt; section, and at certain places on my blogroll, chiefly &lt;a href="http://www.shirky.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Clay shirky&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I guess we do make a fuss about the printing press and the impact it had on the dissemination of Luther’s 95 Theses</em></p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s where a lot of this &#8216;meta-blogging&#8217; (i.e. blogging about blogging) comes from.  I think people sense the emergence of a new innovation that will chnage society, and we naturally want to chronicle that change and how it happens.  I&#8217;ve often likened the Communications Revolution to the Industrial Revolution, suggesting that the use of technologies will affect a societal change.  </p>
<p>More links and comments in the grandly titled <a href="http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/category/internet/" rel="nofollow">Internet Philosophy</a> section, and at certain places on my blogroll, chiefly <a href="http://www.shirky.com/" rel="nofollow">Clay shirky</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Clarice</title>
		<link>http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2006/05/14/free-alaa-egyptian-blogger-detained/#comment-2615</link>
		<dc:creator>Clarice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 12:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the clarification there Bert.  I wasn't having a go at *you* or what you said.  I suppose I was just wondering, did people write self-congratulatory, self-referential newspaper articles getting all excited about how the telephone or the postal service facilitated protest?  Maybe they did.

Post hoc, I guess we do make a fuss about the printing press and the impact it had on the dissemination of Luther's 95 Theses and what that did to the Catholic Church at the time.  Maybe I am making a non-point.  I guess what I'm thinking is if it's such an exciting development then may the proof of the pudding be in the eating - anything else is premature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the clarification there Bert.  I wasn&#8217;t having a go at *you* or what you said.  I suppose I was just wondering, did people write self-congratulatory, self-referential newspaper articles getting all excited about how the telephone or the postal service facilitated protest?  Maybe they did.</p>
<p>Post hoc, I guess we do make a fuss about the printing press and the impact it had on the dissemination of Luther&#8217;s 95 Theses and what that did to the Catholic Church at the time.  Maybe I am making a non-point.  I guess what I&#8217;m thinking is if it&#8217;s such an exciting development then may the proof of the pudding be in the eating - anything else is premature.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2006/05/14/free-alaa-egyptian-blogger-detained/#comment-2614</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 11:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Web 2.0 is just a buzzword, that generally refers to those tools that allow a more collaborative online experience.  &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2.0" rel="nofollow"&gt;Have a look at the Wikipedia article&lt;/a&gt;.  Things like &lt;a href="http://del.icio.us/robertsharp" rel="nofollow"&gt;del.icio.us&lt;/a&gt; are pretty Web 2.0 I think.

Crucially, you don't actually need to know what Web 2.0 is to actually use it!  You do already.

The point of the post that I linked to was not that the Free Alaa Campaign could be used to promote Web 2.0, but simply noting the extent to which those technologies are being used for campaigning.  This is interesting precisely because it enables people without sophisticated technical knowledge to still campaign effectively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Web 2.0 is just a buzzword, that generally refers to those tools that allow a more collaborative online experience.  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2.0" rel="nofollow">Have a look at the Wikipedia article</a>.  Things like <a href="http://del.icio.us/robertsharp" rel="nofollow">del.icio.us</a> are pretty Web 2.0 I think.</p>
<p>Crucially, you don&#8217;t actually need to know what Web 2.0 is to actually use it!  You do already.</p>
<p>The point of the post that I linked to was not that the Free Alaa Campaign could be used to promote Web 2.0, but simply noting the extent to which those technologies are being used for campaigning.  This is interesting precisely because it enables people without sophisticated technical knowledge to still campaign effectively.</p>
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		<title>By: Clarice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clarice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 11:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I don't know about all this Web2.0, whatever that is.  I can appreciate that newsdesks might be more interested in a new media technology story than the arrests or beating of a few democracy activists, but if the aim of all this is to protect people from injustice rather than blowing one's own cyberactivism/web-geek trumpet, and bandying cyber-jargon around the place to make you look cool, then rob is dead right. What does google-bombing (which if it actually had anything to do with bombs would make sense, but it doesn't, so it doesn't) by itself actually do in practical terms to speed release of the wrongfully-arrested, or to improve human rights in countries whose goverments are opposed to it?  

"Bloody Nothing", or something close to it.  People are too busy to worry about the culpability involved in knowing and doing nothing, and some people like Tim Whatshisname seem to be opposed to guilt per se.  Not to mention the fact that the internet is awash with people who are not as technically literate as they might be, don't know what Web2.0 is, and want things to be easy for themselves, but maybe still have a social conscience of sorts.  All this technowotsit is fine and fancy, but I fear it is divisive, even as it pretends to be inclusive.  The people who are proficient in it actually have a duty to make protest easy for people who aren't.  

Which is why, after peeping at the bbc website and finding it silent on both subjects, I've casually asked them to point me to their world-leading news coverage of the Alaa Abd El-Fatah story by going to &lt;a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/newswatch/ukfs/hi/newsid_3990000/newsid_3993900/3993909.stm"&gt;this page here&lt;/a&gt;.

Hooray for Pickled Politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I don&#8217;t know about all this Web2.0, whatever that is.  I can appreciate that newsdesks might be more interested in a new media technology story than the arrests or beating of a few democracy activists, but if the aim of all this is to protect people from injustice rather than blowing one&#8217;s own cyberactivism/web-geek trumpet, and bandying cyber-jargon around the place to make you look cool, then rob is dead right. What does google-bombing (which if it actually had anything to do with bombs would make sense, but it doesn&#8217;t, so it doesn&#8217;t) by itself actually do in practical terms to speed release of the wrongfully-arrested, or to improve human rights in countries whose goverments are opposed to it?  </p>
<p>&#8220;Bloody Nothing&#8221;, or something close to it.  People are too busy to worry about the culpability involved in knowing and doing nothing, and some people like Tim Whatshisname seem to be opposed to guilt per se.  Not to mention the fact that the internet is awash with people who are not as technically literate as they might be, don&#8217;t know what Web2.0 is, and want things to be easy for themselves, but maybe still have a social conscience of sorts.  All this technowotsit is fine and fancy, but I fear it is divisive, even as it pretends to be inclusive.  The people who are proficient in it actually have a duty to make protest easy for people who aren&#8217;t.  </p>
<p>Which is why, after peeping at the bbc website and finding it silent on both subjects, I&#8217;ve casually asked them to point me to their world-leading news coverage of the Alaa Abd El-Fatah story by going to <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/newswatch/ukfs/hi/newsid_3990000/newsid_3993900/3993909.stm">this page here</a>.</p>
<p>Hooray for Pickled Politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Serious Golmal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 100 Egypts 4U</title>
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		<dc:creator>Serious Golmal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 100 Egypts 4U</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 23:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The G-B4A campaign could well become a test case for grass roots activism for Web2.0. Which, as Robert Sharpe says: 21st century methods being employed to hasten the release of Alaa Abd El-Fatah, who has been imprisoned for his part in a peaceful, pro-democracy protest [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The G-B4A campaign could well become a test case for grass roots activism for Web2.0. Which, as Robert Sharpe says: 21st century methods being employed to hasten the release of Alaa Abd El-Fatah, who has been imprisoned for his part in a peaceful, pro-democracy protest [...]</p>
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