Comments on: Let the women rule http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/02/05/let-the-women-rule/ Everyone has a right to my opinions Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:53:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Robert Sharp » Blog Archive » Voting for minorities http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/02/05/let-the-women-rule/#comment-133225 Robert Sharp » Blog Archive » Voting for minorities Fri, 16 May 2008 00:43:13 +0000 http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/02/05/let-the-women-rule/#comment-133225 [...] Sharp Everyone has a right to my opinions « Let the women rule Inherently violent? [...] [...] Sharp Everyone has a right to my opinions « Let the women rule Inherently violent? [...]

]]> By: Matt Munro http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/02/05/let-the-women-rule/#comment-40632 Matt Munro Fri, 09 Feb 2007 12:33:04 +0000 http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/02/05/let-the-women-rule/#comment-40632 "Men usually suffer at the hands of other men (four out of five perpetrators of violent crime are men, according to statistics.gov.uk). Maybe time for our male leaders to effect some change?" Unless you are suggesting a global transgenic programme to alter male DNA I can't see what politicians could do “Men usually suffer at the hands of other men (four out of five perpetrators of violent crime are men, according to statistics.gov.uk).

Maybe time for our male leaders to effect some change?”

Unless you are suggesting a global transgenic programme to alter male DNA I can’t see what politicians could do

]]> By: Matt Munro http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/02/05/let-the-women-rule/#comment-40631 Matt Munro Fri, 09 Feb 2007 12:28:46 +0000 http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/02/05/let-the-women-rule/#comment-40631 The retort to this is that this is because the women are still operating within the patriarchy, playing the male game of power and control. If all countries were ruled by women, the dynamic would shift. Women leaders are forced to operate within reality, not "the patriarchy". The reality is that power is relative to the resources around which all conflict is ultimately centred. Women want resources just as much as men (albeit for slightly different reasons) and unless science comes up with a way of producing unlimited resources, there is no logical reason why there should be any less global conflict under global female rule. There are obvious links between resources, war and capitalism, so agree that would be a good place to start the revolution... "there has never been more fear in our society, more craving for the chimera of security, more exposure to surveillance and curbs on our freedoms or more extremism" I'm not sure that's historically true - I wasn't around during World War 2 but it's axiomatic that the population were under surveillance of a sort, subject to authoritain control, curbs on freedom, and a huge amount of the negative conditioning which induces both fear and out group hostility. I did grow up in the UK during the Cold War and the height of "the troubles" in Northern Ireland - both of which induced a vague feeling of insecurity. With almost identical justfications similar curbs were introduced then as now (1970s "sus" laws, internment, etc) and identical complaints were voiced (victimization of religious and ethnic minorities, civil liberties infringements, police state etc) There are obvious paralells between the past and the present - subsitute "Islam" for "Communism", "IRA" for "Alqeda" and "Environmental" for "Nuclear" armageddon and todays Daily Mail could be from 1975. The retort to this is that this is because the women are still operating within the patriarchy, playing the male game of power and control. If all countries were ruled by women, the dynamic would shift.

Women leaders are forced to operate within reality, not “the patriarchy”. The reality is that power is relative to the resources around which all conflict is ultimately centred. Women want resources just as much as men (albeit for slightly different reasons) and unless science comes up with a way of producing unlimited resources, there is no logical reason why there should be any less global conflict under global female rule. There are obvious links between resources, war and capitalism, so agree that would be a good place to start the revolution…

“there has never been more fear in our society, more craving for the chimera of security, more exposure to surveillance and curbs on our freedoms or more extremism”

I’m not sure that’s historically true - I wasn’t around during World War 2 but it’s axiomatic that the population were under surveillance of a sort, subject to authoritain control, curbs on freedom, and a huge amount of the negative conditioning which induces both fear and out group hostility.
I did grow up in the UK during the Cold War and the height of “the troubles” in Northern Ireland - both of which induced a vague feeling of insecurity. With almost identical justfications similar curbs were introduced then as now (1970s “sus” laws, internment, etc) and identical complaints were voiced (victimization of religious and ethnic minorities, civil liberties infringements, police state etc)

There are obvious paralells between the past and the present - subsitute “Islam” for “Communism”, “IRA” for “Alqeda” and “Environmental” for “Nuclear” armageddon and todays Daily Mail could be from 1975.

]]> By: Judith Adams http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/02/05/let-the-women-rule/#comment-40519 Judith Adams Thu, 08 Feb 2007 13:57:25 +0000 http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/02/05/let-the-women-rule/#comment-40519 I can't think what women would do with the world we've been given. Fear is its god, and death its glory and capitalism its true nature and core political form - for all these things serve the power of the patriarchy, as do all religions. It's all a primitive worship of the male form and core male values - which the likes of Clinton, Thatcher et al have to dress up and ape. Someone (a woman) said so succinctly on radio last Sunday words to the effect of: there has never been more fear in our society, more craving for the chimera of security, more exposure to surveillance and curbs on our freedoms or more extremism - and isn't capitalism doing nicely? I can’t think what women would do with the world we’ve been given. Fear is its god, and death its glory and capitalism its true nature and core political form - for all these things serve the power of the patriarchy, as do all religions.
It’s all a primitive worship of the male form and core male values - which the likes of Clinton, Thatcher et al have to dress up and ape.
Someone (a woman) said so succinctly on radio last Sunday words to the effect of: there has never been more fear in our society, more craving for the chimera of security, more exposure to surveillance and curbs on our freedoms or more extremism - and isn’t capitalism doing nicely?

]]> By: MK http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/02/05/let-the-women-rule/#comment-40230 MK Tue, 06 Feb 2007 21:17:32 +0000 http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/02/05/let-the-women-rule/#comment-40230 Men usually suffer at the hands of other men (four out of five perpetrators of violent crime are men, according to statistics.gov.uk). Maybe time for our male leaders to effect some change? Men usually suffer at the hands of other men (four out of five perpetrators of violent crime are men, according to statistics.gov.uk).

Maybe time for our male leaders to effect some change?

]]> By: Clarice http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/02/05/let-the-women-rule/#comment-40218 Clarice Tue, 06 Feb 2007 19:26:12 +0000 http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/02/05/let-the-women-rule/#comment-40218 Well said, Rob. Beautiful. Well said, Rob. Beautiful.

]]> By: Robert http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/02/05/let-the-women-rule/#comment-40180 Robert Tue, 06 Feb 2007 11:54:58 +0000 http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/02/05/let-the-women-rule/#comment-40180 The retort to this is that this is because the women are still operating within the patriarchy, playing the male game of power and control. If <em>all</em> countries were ruled by women, the dynamic would shift. When talking about suffering, Stella was talking specifically about the mental pain experienced on the death of a child, not human suffering in general. The retort to this is that this is because the women are still operating within the patriarchy, playing the male game of power and control. If all countries were ruled by women, the dynamic would shift.

When talking about suffering, Stella was talking specifically about the mental pain experienced on the death of a child, not human suffering in general.

]]> By: Matt Munro http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/02/05/let-the-women-rule/#comment-40162 Matt Munro Tue, 06 Feb 2007 10:49:54 +0000 http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/02/05/let-the-women-rule/#comment-40162 "You suffer, I know you suffer, me, but not as women suffer". Men: Shorter life expectancy More likely to have a serious illness More likely to be permanently disabled More likely to suffer mental illness More likely to commit suicide More likely to be a victim of crime More likely to be murdered More likely to be sent to and die in war Enough suffering for everyman I would say. "Then the world will be so peaceful, because we wouldn’t create so many wars.” This is popular feminist wish fullfillment. Women leaders are not new and as you say there is no evidence that women exercise power any differently or less destructively than men. It is *power* which corrupts, not the gender of the person exercising it. “You suffer, I know you suffer, me, but not as women suffer”.

Men:
Shorter life expectancy
More likely to have a serious illness
More likely to be permanently disabled
More likely to suffer mental illness
More likely to commit suicide
More likely to be a victim of crime
More likely to be murdered
More likely to be sent to and die in war

Enough suffering for everyman I would say.

“Then the world will be so peaceful, because we wouldn’t create so many wars.”

This is popular feminist wish fullfillment. Women leaders are not new and as you say there is no evidence that women exercise power any differently or less destructively than men. It is *power* which corrupts, not the gender of the person exercising it.

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