Comments on: Britain: Boors at the Eurovision Party http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/05/13/eurovision/ Everyone has a right to my opinions Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:36:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Robert http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/05/13/eurovision/comment-page-1/#comment-72342 Robert Mon, 21 May 2007 11:36:23 +0000 http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/05/13/eurovision/#comment-72342 None taken. Previous commenters have labelled me as precisely the type to know better. Although I still maintain that if segregation based on ethnicity is enshrined in law, as it undisputably is in Israel, then such a country risks having such words flung in its direction. We're way off topic now though... None taken. Previous commenters have labelled me as precisely the type to know better. Although I still maintain that if segregation based on ethnicity is enshrined in law, as it undisputably is in Israel, then such a country risks having such words flung in its direction. We’re way off topic now though…

]]> By: Matt Wardman http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/05/13/eurovision/comment-page-1/#comment-72333 Matt Wardman Mon, 21 May 2007 10:24:41 +0000 http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/05/13/eurovision/#comment-72333 I tend to agree, but it is used constantly in the opposite direction by people who should know better, and I was making the point. No offence to you intended. Matt I tend to agree, but it is used constantly in the opposite direction by people who should know better, and I was making the point.

No offence to you intended.

Matt

]]> By: Robert http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/05/13/eurovision/comment-page-1/#comment-72328 Robert Mon, 21 May 2007 10:01:36 +0000 http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/05/13/eurovision/#comment-72328 <a href="http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2006/08/07/anit-semitism-and-apartheid/" rel="nofollow">Apartheid is a difficult word to use in this context</a>. Apartheid is a difficult word to use in this context.

]]> By: Matt Wardman http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/05/13/eurovision/comment-page-1/#comment-72261 Matt Wardman Sun, 20 May 2007 21:34:40 +0000 http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/05/13/eurovision/#comment-72261 Israel is in the European because their neighbours treat them as if they were the wrong side of system of cultural apartheid. Matt Israel is in the European because their neighbours treat them as if they were the wrong side of system of cultural apartheid.

Matt

]]> By: Matt Munro http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/05/13/eurovision/comment-page-1/#comment-71589 Matt Munro Tue, 15 May 2007 09:39:01 +0000 http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/05/13/eurovision/#comment-71589 "What about Israel!? How come they are in the Eurovision, but Lebanon is not?" Good question, they also have a footy team in the Euro 2008 qualifiers. I think it's because none of their neighbours will play with them....... “What about Israel!? How come they are in the Eurovision, but Lebanon is not?”

Good question, they also have a footy team in the Euro 2008 qualifiers. I think it’s because none of their neighbours will play with them…….

]]> By: Robert http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/05/13/eurovision/comment-page-1/#comment-71508 Robert Mon, 14 May 2007 16:04:56 +0000 http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/05/13/eurovision/#comment-71508 <em>I has a debate with my partner about how these (former eastern bloc) countries could lay claim to being European anyway - politically, geographically, economically, what exactly is the criteria ? When I think of europe I do not think of Serbia, Hungary or Bulgaria.</em> What about Israel!? How come they are in the Eurovision, but Lebanon is not? Interestingly, the post office also consider Israel to be in Europe for insurance purposes. I don't know about delivery. So a grey area, yes. I disagree about Hungary, Serbia and Bulgaria though. They seem very European to me, especially compared to Azerbjan and places like that. Armenia though? I has a debate with my partner about how these (former eastern bloc) countries could lay claim to being European anyway – politically, geographically, economically, what exactly is the criteria ? When I think of europe I do not think of Serbia, Hungary or Bulgaria.

What about Israel!? How come they are in the Eurovision, but Lebanon is not?

Interestingly, the post office also consider Israel to be in Europe for insurance purposes. I don’t know about delivery.

So a grey area, yes. I disagree about Hungary, Serbia and Bulgaria though. They seem very European to me, especially compared to Azerbjan and places like that. Armenia though?

]]> By: Matt Munro http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/05/13/eurovision/comment-page-1/#comment-71506 Matt Munro Mon, 14 May 2007 15:36:38 +0000 http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/05/13/eurovision/#comment-71506 I has a debate with my partner about how these (former eastern bloc) countries could lay claim to being European anyway - politically, geographically, economically, what exactly is the criteria ? When I think of europe I do not think of Serbia, Hungary or Bulgaria Though the winning song was awful and sung by a woman too ugly to be allowed on international television. The music isn't to be taken seriously (when was the last time a Euro winner had a music career, Cliff Richard ? Abba ?) so its all down to visuals, in which case you may as well have dolly birds in short skirts and bubblegum pop. For me the UK song was the essence of eurovision, a cheesy, camp costume disco number which will no doubt be the soundtrack to many a drunken shag on the last night of a club 18-30 holiday in Greece, and you can't get much more european than that. I has a debate with my partner about how these (former eastern bloc) countries could lay claim to being European anyway – politically, geographically, economically, what exactly is the criteria ?
When I think of europe I do not think of Serbia, Hungary or Bulgaria

Though the winning song was awful and sung by a woman too ugly to be allowed on international television. The music isn’t to be taken seriously (when was the last time a Euro winner had a music career, Cliff Richard ? Abba ?) so its all down to visuals, in which case you may as well have dolly birds in short skirts and bubblegum pop.
For me the UK song was the essence of eurovision, a cheesy, camp costume disco number which will no doubt be the soundtrack to many a drunken shag on the last night of a club 18-30 holiday in Greece, and you can’t get much more european than that.

]]> By: Robert http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/05/13/eurovision/comment-page-1/#comment-71487 Robert Mon, 14 May 2007 10:53:51 +0000 http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/05/13/eurovision/#comment-71487 It all depends on your conception of entertaining. What I am saying is that the rest of Britain seems to have - objectively speaking - terrible taste. It takes humiliating defeats like that on Saturday to make the British public realise this... I don't see how we can avoid block voting. How different is it from audiences voting to keep in less talented singers in, say, "Grease Is The Word"? What is interesting is that such block voting exists at all. It is an alien concept to the British, who (as your comment shows) have antagonistic attitudes to the rest of the continent. Why are we so friendless? It all depends on your conception of entertaining. What I am saying is that the rest of Britain seems to have – objectively speaking – terrible taste. It takes humiliating defeats like that on Saturday to make the British public realise this…

I don’t see how we can avoid block voting. How different is it from audiences voting to keep in less talented singers in, say, “Grease Is The Word”? What is interesting is that such block voting exists at all. It is an alien concept to the British, who (as your comment shows) have antagonistic attitudes to the rest of the continent. Why are we so friendless?

]]> By: Janet http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/05/13/eurovision/comment-page-1/#comment-71382 Janet Sun, 13 May 2007 18:11:53 +0000 http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/05/13/eurovision/#comment-71382 Hello Robert, I'd like to point out that my family and I were also watching the show and, because we don't have interactive television, were unable to understand what the Serbian entry was singing about. Infact, we hated the song because the tune itself is very dreary. I was very proud to be British as I felt that the public had voted sensibly and given the most entertaining songs high points. Maybe the BBC should provide translations because it seems the rest of Britain missed the point of the Serbian entry too. I don't think you should be so down on the UK as our entry is exactly what the contest is all about- cheese. We didn't get any votes as we have no friendly neighbours. Somehow the contest should be made anonymous as block voting has made it a complete farce. Hello Robert, I’d like to point out that my family and I were also watching the show and, because we don’t have interactive television, were unable to understand what the Serbian entry was singing about. Infact, we hated the song because the tune itself is very dreary. I was very proud to be British as I felt that the public had voted sensibly and given the most entertaining songs high points. Maybe the BBC should provide translations because it seems the rest of Britain missed the point of the Serbian entry too. I don’t think you should be so down on the UK as our entry is exactly what the contest is all about- cheese. We didn’t get any votes as we have no friendly neighbours. Somehow the contest should be made anonymous as block voting has made it a complete farce.

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