Comments on: Church Standards http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/12/31/church-standards/ Everyone has a right to my opinions Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:36:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Kathy http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/12/31/church-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-130666 Kathy Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:09:21 +0000 http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/12/31/church-standards/#comment-130666 oops - I mean re-marry in church oops – I mean re-marry in church

]]> By: Kathy http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/12/31/church-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-130665 Kathy Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:08:54 +0000 http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/12/31/church-standards/#comment-130665 I thought it was against Cof E and Catholicism to remarry - vows were broken - I think Billy and Larry probably had a blessing but may well be wrong on all counts I thought it was against Cof E and Catholicism to remarry – vows were broken – I think Billy and Larry probably had a blessing but may well be wrong on all counts

]]> By: Matt Munro http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/12/31/church-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-125446 Matt Munro Tue, 08 Jan 2008 12:30:29 +0000 http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/12/31/church-standards/#comment-125446 Rob - It's one of those elephant in the room conditions that no one likes to mention publicly because it's constitutionally sensitive. Before Charles married Di, Camilla was in the frame but had to be dropped as marriage to her would scupper his sucession to the throne and create a constitutional crisis. As a catholic it's one of the things that winds me up about multiculturalism. All sorts of fairly trivial minority rights are considered important enoug to legislate on but one of the largest minorities in the country is effectively denied the highest office of state. Rob – It’s one of those elephant in the room conditions that no one likes to mention publicly because it’s constitutionally sensitive. Before Charles married Di, Camilla was in the frame but had to be dropped as marriage to her would scupper his sucession to the throne and create a constitutional crisis.
As a catholic it’s one of the things that winds me up about multiculturalism. All sorts of fairly trivial minority rights are considered important enoug to legislate on but one of the largest minorities in the country is effectively denied the highest office of state.

]]> By: Clarice http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/12/31/church-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-124685 Clarice Fri, 04 Jan 2008 01:43:09 +0000 http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/12/31/church-standards/#comment-124685 I know, Rob! I misread MM's remark! It's very embarrassing. I got muddled up between MP and PM. I know, Rob! I misread MM’s remark!
It’s very embarrassing. I got muddled up between MP and PM.

]]> By: Alex Burford http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/12/31/church-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-124644 Alex Burford Thu, 03 Jan 2008 19:12:13 +0000 http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/12/31/church-standards/#comment-124644 The Bill of Rights of 1689, barred Roman Catholics and those who marry Roman Catholics from ascending the throne "for ever". With regards to the PM: as s/he is still involved in appointing senior members of the Church of England, a catholic Prime Minister is considered to be 'constitutionally awkward'. The ground is so muddy, even Tony had to ask... A x The Bill of Rights of 1689, barred Roman Catholics and those who marry Roman Catholics from ascending the throne “for ever”.

With regards to the PM: as s/he is still involved in appointing senior members of the Church of England, a catholic Prime Minister is considered to be ‘constitutionally awkward’. The ground is so muddy, even Tony had to ask…

A x

]]> By: Robert http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/12/31/church-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-124641 Robert Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:33:58 +0000 http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/12/31/church-standards/#comment-124641 Rt Hon Ruth Kelly MP has never, to my knowledge, been Prime Minister. But clearly there ain't no law preventing a Catholic from being a member of the Privvy Council, which does make Matt's assertion all the more shaky. Rt Hon Ruth Kelly MP has never, to my knowledge, been Prime Minister. But clearly there ain’t no law preventing a Catholic from being a member of the Privvy Council, which does make Matt’s assertion all the more shaky.

]]> By: Clarice http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/12/31/church-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-124639 Clarice Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:28:28 +0000 http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/12/31/church-standards/#comment-124639 Have you heard of Ruth Kelly MP, Matt? Rob, I think the issue with Camilla was not for religious-type reasons, but more because for someone to marry the Prince of Wales, the traditional preference is that she should be a virgin, which a divorcee is quite likely to not be. Of course, it's all academic if she's post-menopausal, but the protocol is there for reproductive reasons, if you catch my drift. Have you heard of Ruth Kelly MP, Matt?

Rob, I think the issue with Camilla was not for religious-type reasons, but more because for someone to marry the Prince of Wales, the traditional preference is that she should be a virgin, which a divorcee is quite likely to not be. Of course, it’s all academic if she’s post-menopausal, but the protocol is there for reproductive reasons, if you catch my drift.

]]> By: Robert http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/12/31/church-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-124609 Robert Thu, 03 Jan 2008 13:30:11 +0000 http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/12/31/church-standards/#comment-124609 Matt Muro, w.t.f?! I do not recall any mention of Camilla being a Catholic during the furore over her marriage to Charles. I am sure it was all to do with their shared status as divorcees. If you can find a link that 'outs' her as a Catholic I'll gladly change my mind. More likely is some kind of law which prevents a Catholic becoming PM, although I doubt that too. I know there is a law preventing the monarch from being Catholic, but I'm not sure that it extends to any of the offices of state. Just because there hasn't been a Catholic Prime Minister, that doesn't necessarily mean that there is a law against it. We waited until 1979 for a female Prime Minister, and there still hasn't been a PM from an ethnic minority - these absences merely reflect the prejudices of the electorate and society. Likewise with Catholics, often marginalized and informally discriminated against. Matt Muro, w.t.f?!

I do not recall any mention of Camilla being a Catholic during the furore over her marriage to Charles. I am sure it was all to do with their shared status as divorcees. If you can find a link that ‘outs’ her as a Catholic I’ll gladly change my mind.

More likely is some kind of law which prevents a Catholic becoming PM, although I doubt that too. I know there is a law preventing the monarch from being Catholic, but I’m not sure that it extends to any of the offices of state. Just because there hasn’t been a Catholic Prime Minister, that doesn’t necessarily mean that there is a law against it. We waited until 1979 for a female Prime Minister, and there still hasn’t been a PM from an ethnic minority – these absences merely reflect the prejudices of the electorate and society. Likewise with Catholics, often marginalized and informally discriminated against.

]]> By: Matt Munro http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/12/31/church-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-124450 Matt Munro Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:48:24 +0000 http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/12/31/church-standards/#comment-124450 It's in the constitution apparently. Name a catholic PM. It’s in the constitution apparently. Name a catholic PM.

]]> By: matt http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/12/31/church-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-124420 matt Wed, 02 Jan 2008 13:15:52 +0000 http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2007/12/31/church-standards/#comment-124420 "catholics cannot be PM..." ? where does it say that ? “catholics cannot be PM…” ?

where does it say that ?

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